NightWatchman wrote:What are all of you people who are asking for inclusion of the seed is strong on about? I like that submod well enough, don't get me wrong, but it's not accurate lore-wise at all. We know very specifically that genetics works more or less in a "regular" fashion, or at least mix, in Westeros--House Stark's heirs all look like Tully's (auburn hair) except for Jon (R+L=J?) and Arya. We also know that several Targaryen bastards have had black hair (but kept the purple eyes) when their mothers weren't high valyrian. "The seed is strong" specifically referred to the fact that Baratheons are traditionally dark haired and Lannisters are blond and dark haired genes overpower light haired genes. Ned is basically the Westerosi equivalent of of Mendel, that's all. The submod is fine, and adds a bit of flavor, and that's cool, if you want to play with it it should be available, but it absolutely should not be part of the base game at all.
First of all I think we should forget about everything we learned in school about dominant/recessive genes when we talk about a series of fantasy books. It is (very) clear that George's world has a completely different genetic system. Or how else could the Lannisters keep their blonde hairs for thousands of years? Because Lannisters do have blonde hair since Lann the Clever, it is known (well there is even a very old tale that tries to explain their look: about how Lann the Clever "stole" gold from the sun to brighten his hair). So no matter who they married along the years, bam: blondes.
Meanwhile in the game (without the submod) the Lannisters usually give up their golden heads in a few generations.
And it's not just the Lannisters. All the ancient and powerful houses in Westeros have their "look", and maybe this is some kind of explanation on how these families could endure so many wars, changes, and diseases for thousands of years: their seed is somehow stronger, they managed to live long enough to breed and keep their lines (and traits, and looks) going. Might be a blessing from the gods, might be the world's weird genetics, but the fact is: George writes clearly about "the Lannister look", "the Tully look", the "Stark look" and so on, so it implies that they've looked like that for many centuries.
As to the "why Robb/Bran/Rickon" look like Tullys and not Starks:
It's understandable (and a thing present in the submod) that when two strong-blooded houses marry, you never know who the child's looks will favor.
Except of course when one of those houses is Baratheon, as Ned Stark and Jon Arryn figured out. Another thing that George states very clearly.
As to Targaryens: their ethnicity is high valyrian, the same as many other houses before the Doom of Valyria. They had to marry brother and sister to keep their bloodline pure and their ethnicity untouched. It is a different matter from the westerosi Daynes and their historic purple eyes, for example.
So it is accurate lore-wise.
It makes absolutely no sense in the real world but yes, it is accurate in Westeros.