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PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Fri Feb 10, 2012 20:20

Things to do:

1. Basic setup

For each major region in Westeros:
  • Create the associated titles in common\landed_titles.txt, from the king title (actually, the Lord Paramount) to every last barony included on the Google Doc (there are a few regions that lack most baronies, if you are a creative enough guy to make them up yourself great, if not leave them until somebody does that).
  • Define their corresponding dynasties in common\dynasties.txt (I recommend using Grell's ids to make things easier for now).
  • Port Grell's characters to the new syntax, keeping in mind possible incompatibilities, and implement their relations (marriages, father/son, employer...).
  • Create title-character-liege associations in history\titles.
  • Add any new text to localisation files (for example, any new title/settlement name).

I'll send you the culture/religion/etc files which are common for all of us so we'll all use the same tags and IDs, and examples from an already half-done North. If you are already doing a region and don't have them, let me know.

Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... 2S2c#gid=0 (if you want to add things such as barony names and don't have permissions, create a gmail account if you don't have one and send me your address).

Some guidelines (feel free to add more or correct anything you don't agree with):

I think major cities like Oldtown and King's Landing should have a full set of baronies, just like Constantinople in vanilla. The Arbor would be a good candidate too. Lannisport should have six, and White Harbor/Gulltown, five.

For the rest, I'd give important places such as Lord Paramount/poweful dukes capitals three or four, canon provinces two or three and canon sh*tholes/non canon provinces one or two.

By type:

- North: Either a single castle or a castle + a town.
- Riverlands: More towns and septs than usual (in the case of septs, this should still be a small number). More towns than castles.
- Vale: More or less the same number of towns and castles.
- Westerlands: More or less the same number of towns and castles. More castles in the north, more towns in the south?
- The Iron Isles: Almost no towns, basically all castles.
- The Crownlands: More or less the same number of towns and castles.
- The Stormlands: Far more castles than towns.
- The Reach: More towns than castles, but not by much. A bigger proportion of castles in the Dornish Marches, more towns along the Mander and near Oldtown.
- Dorne: More or less the same number of towns and castles. More castles in the mountains.

And then sprinkle some septs here and there. Definitely, always one on major cites and probably region capitals.

Current assignments:

- The North - Cabezaestufa - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Iron Islands - Stiener - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Riverlands - Sunspear - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Vale of Arryn - Hroppa - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Westerlands - Ogaburan - Basic setup done (needs flags), ready for testing - On test build
- The Crownlands - the_hdk - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Reach - knuckey - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build
- The Stormlands - jazthesentinel - Basic setup done (needs cleaning), ready for testing - On test build
- Dorne - ThePiglet - Basic setup done, ready for testing - On test build

2. Graphics

We are aiming to eventually include all the CoAs from every house/title (not counting baronies), so there's a lot of work to be done. We might also want to study the misteries of character faces and dna. As of now, the_hdk has already started; if more people join him with this we can use this space to keep tabs on who is doing what.

3. Miscellaneous

There is not much more to be done until the basic setup is done, but we still need barony names (a lot of them!). If you are feeling creative, head to the Google Doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akk5_SIvVbYSdGpPSFRkMDZ5aXVaUkV1cXZkelV2S2c#gid=8) and start naming! Optimally we'd want to define a full set of names for all regions, even for still unbuilt settlements.

I found a few similarities within each region's names:

- The North: Obviously winter, snow, cold (Winterfell, White Harbor, Last Hearth).
- Riverlands: Rivers and bodies of water? (Riverrun, Maidenpool). Not too many examples, to be honest, but seems fitting.
- The Vale: Mountains, rocks, valleys (Runestone, Peeble)
- The Westerlands: Metals -particularly precious ones- and mining (Golden Tooth, Silverhill)
- The Crownlands: No particular theme I could find, but we could use some Valyrian names as noted above.
- The Reach: Crops, fruits and their derivates, all kind of edible things. Maybe flowers too (Sunflower Hall, Cider Hall, Honeyholt).
- The Stormlands: Bad weather? Maybe forests, too? Not many examples, either (Storm's End).
- Dorne: Sky, stars, etc (Sunspear, Starfall, Skyreach).

Still, I suppose if we are going to stay loyal to GRRM naming philosophy most names should be run-of-the-mill English-like town/castle names, like places you might find in England or any other English-speaking countries. We can even use real names (but if you do that it's better if they are very small/unknown towns, no Liverpool in the Riverlands!).

See point 1 for suggestions for initial baronies in each county. Optimally, the first settlement (the capital) should always be a castle, and the second a town (except in special cases such as the Iron Isles or the Stormlands). The rest will depend on each province and region.

Nomenclature:

- (C): Add this after the barony name if it's a castle.
- (T): Add this after the barony name if it's a town.
- (S): Add this after the barony name if it's a sept.
- *: Indicates that the name is non-canon. There are quite a few non-canon names without the asterisk, but it would be a good idea to use it for new names you might add.
- Strike out: Indicates settlements not built at the beginning of the scenario.
- Red text: If you change any name, please change the color of the new name to red. Same if you move provinces around.
- Bold text: Indicates a duchy capital, the owner of this province will be the duke.

And of course, suggestions are always welcome.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by jazthesentinel » Thu Feb 16, 2012 18:43

Are the stormlands still unassigned?
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by AlecTrevelyan006 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 00:19

I am sadly relatively inexperience with modding, so I don't feel comfortable taking on the responsibility of doing any of the regions or character lists from scratch unless we're really desperate (and I think it sounds like we've got it all accounted for)

However, I have a lot of free time over this weekend, so if there's anything I can do with editing rather than creating (I don't know, adding traits to characters?) I'd love to contribute more than just posting here in this forum.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 02:24

jazthesentinel wrote:Are the stormlands still unassigned?

No, ogaburan is going to be busier than expected, so that means they are yours if you want them :)

AlecTrevelyan006 wrote:I am sadly relatively inexperience with modding, so I don't feel comfortable taking on the responsibility of doing any of the regions or character lists from scratch unless we're really desperate (and I think it sounds like we've got it all accounted for)

However, I have a lot of free time over this weekend, so if there's anything I can do with editing rather than creating (I don't know, adding traits to characters?) I'd love to contribute more than just posting here in this forum.

That's the spirit! :) (even if posting is important too, there's still plenty of stuff to be decided and all opinions can be useful for that).

We still need more barony names! The more the better There are some places, such as the Stormlands, that are basically devoid of them except for capitals. There are still a lot of flags to be done, and we need ideas for creating new ones. We could also use some portraits; you could download the Portrait Painter (there's a link in the graphics subforum) and see which combinations are better to recreate important characters, if you are good with faces.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by AlecTrevelyan006 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 05:44

Portrait painter sounds good, I'll try to fiddle with that tomorrow and see if it works.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by jazthesentinel » Fri Feb 17, 2012 16:46

I'll start with the definition of titles and baronies in the stormlands then.

I'll leave the character dinasties open for now.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by kversaw » Fri Feb 17, 2012 22:07

I would like to help with the naming. I noticed in the spreadsheet that for each Province there are 4 Baronies. Does that mean you need a name for each of those Baronies? Can I just start typing in names and deciding if they are castles, towns or septs? Are some of the provinces going to have less than 4 baronies?
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Fri Feb 17, 2012 23:14

kversaw wrote:I would like to help with the naming. I noticed in the spreadsheet that for each Province there are 4 Baronies. Does that mean you need a name for each of those Baronies? Can I just start typing in names and deciding if they are castles, towns or septs? Are some of the provinces going to have less than 4 baronies?

Many provinces will have less than 4 baronies, but we'll need names for any barony that can be built in the future too, so the more, the better. Although I guess it would be good to complete the regions that have just the capitals first...

If you want to edit the doc, you'll need a Gmail account. If you have one, PM it to me and I'll give you permissions. Alternately, you could just post your names in the barony suggestions thread in this forum.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by AlecTrevelyan006 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 08:15

Well, I took a fist shot with the portrait editor today, but I wasn't particularly successful. The guy in the thread seemed to be intending to do some more with it, so I might wait for that, or take another shot tomorrow. Or try to stick some of the barony names in the spreadsheet...
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Sun Feb 19, 2012 14:23

To everybody in the list: How are you coming along? Can we start compiling stuff? If you are finished with something, please upload it to the shared Dropbox folder and I'll start to combine everything.

I'm mostly finished with the North myself, so if anybody is having trouble with their part I could lend a hand.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by knuckey » Mon Feb 20, 2012 00:13

yeah mine are ready. One thing though, i cant figure our how to make the Rowans have Goldengrove as their primary duchy. ive tried setting goldengrove county and barony as their capital in the character history but no luck, any ideas?
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Etel » Mon Feb 20, 2012 16:53

I have some minor experience with tinkering with the files from CK1 and would like to lend a hand, if anyone need help. Or are there any minor tasks that are unassigned?
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Hroppa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 17:29

I've created pretty much everything needed, except for a few crossover spouses that may or may not be needed by those creating other cultures, but have encountered some bugs; it's not loading most of the characters for some reason.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:08

Hroppa wrote:I've created pretty much everything needed, except for a few crossover spouses that may or may not be needed by those creating other cultures, but have encountered some bugs; it's not loading most of the characters for some reason.

I just fixed it with the help of Sunspear. He correctly guessed you can't do the following:

mother=#todo...

You can't put a comment right after an assignment operator; either you write a value or comment the whole line. I replaced all instances of
Code: Select all
mother=#

with
Code: Select all
#mother=#

and everything seems to work fine now. I did the same with "add_spouse", even if the game seemed to accept it. Expect your stuff to be merged into the mod very soon.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:13

Etel wrote:I have some minor experience with tinkering with the files from CK1 and would like to lend a hand, if anyone need help. Or are there any minor tasks that are unassigned?

At the moment I think all tasks are assigned, since we haven't really begun making events and the like, but a couple people from the list haven't been seen lately. If they are still MIA after a few days, I might consider giving their region to somebody else.

We still appreciate suggestions and ideas, though :)
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Hroppa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:19

Haha, wow, I'm an idiot. I got so used to using it I forgot I'd invented that notation :P. Glad it's working.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:22

Hroppa wrote:Haha, wow, I'm an idiot. I got so used to using it I forgot I'd invented that notation :P. Glad it's working.

Everybody makes silly mistakes from time to time, it's what makes working with computers interesting :D

By the way, did you do the localisation text for the Vale? I didn't see it in your folder.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Hroppa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:27

Uploaded it to my folder.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by AlecTrevelyan006 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:36

Has everybody who was assigned posted on these forums? Perhaps a CK2 forum message?

I expect a lot of people have been busy playing the game.
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Re: Current Status

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 18:55

Knuckey, Hroppa and ThePiglet's files have been added to the mod, everything seems to work fine except for flags (because there are titles without a flag assigned and they screw up the rest of them). You can get it from Dropbox.

AlecTrevelyan006 wrote:Has everybody who was assigned posted on these forums? Perhaps a CK2 forum message?

I expect a lot of people have been busy playing the game.

I sent some PMs on the Paradox forums, but I haven't got a response yet.
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