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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Ogaburan » Sun May 13, 2012 14:13

Yeah... had a discussion about that, it initially wasnt a limitation.

But on some tests both me and cabe ended up with Aegon (Rahegar's only son & heir) on the kingsguard... got us thinking tt might be a dynasty-ender, which isnt what we want.
Plus as a player, you cant refuse your son joining... and as much as i want to "stick it to the player", game-play-wise its a "dick move". IMHO.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Sun May 13, 2012 17:52

Besides isn't Jaime Lannister the only heir that's part of the kingsguard?
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Galle » Sun May 13, 2012 18:53

Perhaps there should be special circumstances for such dick moves. Aerys did it specifically to piss off Tywin, if I recall correctly.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by EviLaz » Tue May 15, 2012 23:28

Is it possible to make the kingsguard similar to the council? Only the Iron Throne could appoint them. Perhaps events can select them as well, sort of like the events that point out characters who might make a better steward. It would simplify things.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Ogaburan » Wed May 16, 2012 00:54

EviLaz wrote:Is it possible to make the kingsguard similar to the council? Only the Iron Throne could appoint them. Perhaps events can select them as well, sort of like the events that point out characters who might make a better steward. It would simplify things.


Sadly no. :(
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Arcvalons » Wed May 16, 2012 02:54

What if it's the potential Kingsguard character's family (liege) that requests the position through a desicion, which the AI would almost always accept.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Ogaburan » Wed May 16, 2012 14:43

It has nothing to do with how its being asked, the council cannot be changed in that way.

Any changes to it will be global, so you will have a 7 kingsguard council everywhere (dorn, wall & essos) and instead of the current one (marshal/steward/spymaster/ect...).
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Wed May 16, 2012 15:17

Under the current system can you have members of the Kingsguard as part of the Council? As in Barriston Selmy is the Marshal for example.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Ogaburan » Wed May 16, 2012 16:27

Arent you a tester?

The answer is y & n.
Nothing prohibits them from being on the council, except they are direct vassals of the lord commander and can only be on his.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Cabezaestufa » Wed May 16, 2012 16:34

Except for the Lord Commander himself, who can be in the King's council by virtue of being his direct vassal, and in fact is often the marshall (which I think fits nicely).
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Wed May 16, 2012 16:39

Ogaburan wrote:Arent you a tester?

The answer is y & n.
Nothing prohibits them from being on the council, except they are direct vassals of the lord commander and can only be on his.

The answer is y & n.
I have yet to get the mod to work, i've tried everything i could could think of and it still didn't work. Posted the problem but no solution was offered that i hadn't tried or i tried subsequently and they didn't work either :cry: I wish i could test it but it seems it just doesn't want to work for me. I'll try the 0.04 when i get a chance, i hope that will work.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Narf » Mon May 21, 2012 13:35

Yay, another way to get away with stupid heir. I approve.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Mon May 21, 2012 14:00

It is nice to ditch a stupid heir (i had one that had 8 military skill and that's it, i actually tried to make him take the black but then just murdered heim)
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Narf » Mon May 21, 2012 14:03

how can you fail in making him take the black. Can't you just say
Take the Black or... There will happen an.... Accident?
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by knuckey » Mon May 21, 2012 14:25

There is an event where if you have a son who is craven you can demand they take or black or die in an 'accident'. He probably chose that option and his heir refused, which means you can then kill him.

You can also send people to the wall through the banish diplo action.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Narf » Mon May 21, 2012 14:28

Cool, cool.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Mon May 21, 2012 14:33

knuckey wrote:There is an event where if you have a son who is craven you can demand they take or black or die in an 'accident'. He probably chose that option and his heir refused, which means you can then kill him.

You can also send people to the wall through the banish diplo action.

That's the one i was on about :) Though there was also a great grandson that i just murdered because he was retarded (he was a vassal of another lord) and was the heir of my heir, best to keep the family tree in order.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Ogaburan » Mon May 21, 2012 14:46

Am i the only one who takes care of all his kinsmen??? lol.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Kingsgrave » Mon May 21, 2012 14:48

Both in this and the base game, I'd say the probable answer is yes.
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Re: Kingsguard

PostPosted by Smoesville » Mon May 21, 2012 14:52

All i will say is they started it, after the eighth or ninth plot to kill me or my heir i got a bit... reactionary. The main problem was my first lord lasted so long that there were great and even great-great grandchildren and he had seven kids, four males and there was a disturbing propensity for twins in the family. So many plots of murder aimed at me.
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