The Citadel

Ok But is it feasible?

Ogaburan wrote:Am i the only one who takes care of all his kinsmen??? lol.

I think we're alone.

I had a second son who was betrothed to the daughter of another Duke-level Lord to gain a powerful alliance and he got sucked up by the Kingsguard event. He was still betrothed after joining the Kingsguard, so I wasn't sure what would happen when she came of age, and it was a little annoying, so I modified the event file. I added "is_betrothed = no" under all of the "is_married = no" checks, and that took care of the problem.

I think the son was the only valid character because he kept getting selected on reload. After I modified the event, another Kingsguard replacement wasn't found for about a year. I kept checking, and eventually another replacement was selected, so the event still works.

Anyway, just a heads-up that you may want to add "is_betrothed = no" to all of the "is_married = no" checks.

Hardwire wrote:I had a second son who was betrothed to the daughter of another Duke-level Lord to gain a powerful alliance and he got sucked up by the Kingsguard event. He was still betrothed after joining the Kingsguard, so I wasn't sure what would happen when she came of age, and it was a little annoying, so I modified the event file. I added "is_betrothed = no" under all of the "is_married = no" checks, and that took care of the problem.

I think the son was the only valid character because he kept getting selected on reload. After I modified the event, another Kingsguard replacement wasn't found for about a year. I kept checking, and eventually another replacement was selected, so the event still works.

Anyway, just a heads-up that you may want to add "is_betrothed = no" to all of the "is_married = no" checks.

It'd be easier to just break betrothals. We have few enough candidates for the Kingsguard as it is.

Wolfgang Pauli wrote:]It'd be easier to just break betrothals. We have few enough candidates for the Kingsguard as it is.

You could do that, but since the AI doesn't seem to initiate betrothals, it's only going to screw the player. If a player wants a character to be ineligible, they can just marry them off to whoever right away. Betrothals, at least the way I use them, are mainly for securing alliances.

Hardwire wrote:

Wolfgang Pauli wrote:]It'd be easier to just break betrothals. We have few enough candidates for the Kingsguard as it is.

You could do that, but since the AI doesn't seem to initiate betrothals, it's only going to screw the player. If a player wants a character to be ineligible, they can just marry them off to whoever right away. Betrothals, at least the way I use them, are mainly for securing alliances.

That worked well for Tywin Lannister.

AlecTrevelyan006 wrote:That worked well for Tywin Lannister.

Naming Jamie was an unprecedented move by a mad king. It's hardly relevant to this discussion. I'm trying to initiate and facilitate dialogue about a problem I ran into in the mod, sniping to score points isn't very constructive. I've already tweaked the event so it works the way I want it to, and I can always tweak it again if it changes, so I don't really have a dog in this fight.

My main point is that married people are ineligible candidates, and whether this should be expanded to betrothals. Since betrothals are very much a part of life in the nobility and since they are only initiated by the player CK2, they should either also result in ineligibility, or the event needs to be tweaked to break the betrothal, preferably with worse consequences for the king than choosing an unmatched male.

Didn't Barristan break his Betrothal as well?

I think it should break betrothals, and as stated, it should carry a big relation penalty if the King names an heir (or a potential one, maybe the father of the kingsguard-to-be gets an event of whether he supports the decision or is offended)

And I'm hardly sniping to score points. That would be a futile exercise, my opportunities for points passed long ago.

He did.